I don't care if I'm ever in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. NICKS: I've heard, many times, from different people that aren't in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame yet - they're like, I don't care, you know. ![]() And it feels like people are finally appreciating you as a songwriter on a level of some of these legends that we've been talking about. Do you feel like you're finally getting the recognition that you deserve as a songwriter? I mean, you were the only woman to be inaugurated to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame twice, as both a member of a band and a solo artist. SHAPIRO: You have always been recognized as a cultural icon and entertainer. Stop draggin' my, stop draggin' my heart. TOM PETTY AND STEVIE NICKS: (Singing) Now you're keeping some demons down. It would have been more - there would have been more of a sad tint to it. Because I think if he had already died, it would have definitely changed the way I spoke about everything. NICKS: But I'm really glad that this show was recorded before he died. And he's offering to sing it with you if you would like. NICKS: That guy you're crazy about, Tom Petty? Well, this nice man has offered to give you a song. So I talk to him like he's still down the street and I could, like, pick up the phone and call him. Even when I talk about him now on stage, I talk about him like he is not dead - because I don't want him to be dead. SHAPIRO: And I think he was alive when you performed this set later that year. And you do a couple of songs that you and he worked on together, including the first single from your debut solo album, "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around." SHAPIRO: (Laughter) You talk a lot in the show about Tom Petty, who was a close friend of yours. You're never going to be able to be like that freewheeling, roller skating witch that I am in my own world, right? You have to be a team player when you're in a band. It's like you're on a, you know - you're on a basketball team. Now, in the Fleetwood Mac world, you're in a team. NICKS: When that tour was over, I went, well, I will never let management, agents, friends, acquaintances, my dog, anybody, tell me what I'm going to do on my stage, in my world. And Stevie Nicks told me it took her until now, at the age of 72, to feel comfortable doing the songs she wanted to do, instead of the ones other people expected of her. SHAPIRO: That show is now available as a live concert film and an album. NICKS: (Singing) Mountain women live in the canyon, canyon dancing all night long. She opened up what she calls her gothic trunk of lost songs and pulled out a bunch of her tunes that don't get played on the radio, like this one, "Belle Fleur." Stevie Nicks has so many monster hits that what she did on her "24 Karat Gold" tour a few years ago was kind of radical. SHAPIRO: She first hit the Billboard charts in the 1970s with the band Fleetwood Mac, and she did it again just last month. STEVIE NICKS: (Singing) Rhiannon rings like a bell through the night, and wouldn't you love to love her? ![]() Well, that's what we're going to do for the next few minutes with someone whose voice has been keeping us company for decades, providing the soundtrack to road trips, breakups, parties and karaoke nights - Stevie Nicks. Maybe at some point in the last day, you decided to take a step back from the news and pause from obsessing over the election. An audacious concert film, an unwitting viral hit and a second Rock Hall induction: That's just the past two years for Nicks, who says that at 72 she's finally comfortable doing everything she wants.
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